I'm happy to PM a link but a providing a demo of part of my app where there is a sequencer involved is too difficult. I really appreciate all the help suggestions, but I can't see an easy way to make this work. Rotating by 90 is just one bit, there is a wrath of options for things they can do, not just that, so the call back also has to deal with all of those, Really I love the product and will buying the business one next year for this project, but sometimes a project has to start somewhere and mature, not just go straight in for the kill, and at the moment I'm working on getting version 1 done, and this is a small part If you would like to see what I've done so far, please feel free to PM and again thank you for the suggestions and ideas!